[Dev] Fwd: soapui integration and DPL proposal

Frank Cohen fcohen at pushtotest.com
Sat Mar 24 18:37:54 PST 2007


Forwarding to the list for everyone's comment. -Frank


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Ole Matzura <ole at eviware.com>
> Date: March 24, 2007 6:23:08 PM PDT
> To: Frank Cohen <frank at pushtotest.com>
> Cc: Niclas Reimertz <niclas at eviware.com>, William Martinez  
> <wmartinez at avantica.net>
> Subject: Re: soapui integration and DPL proposal
>
> Hi Frank,
>
> sounds ok to me.. I'm sure this flow could be shortened in the  
> future for a better user experience, but I suggest we start here  
> and see "how it feels"..  (for example the user could be prompted  
> for the WSDL already in TestMaker and soapUI would automatically  
> import it and generate a TestSuite with one TestCase containing a  
> test request for each operation..)
>
> Regarding variable insertion, this is already possible in soapUI  
> (we call it "property expansion"). You will currently need to run  
> the testcase as described in the second example at http:// 
> www.soapui.org/userguide/commandline/ 
> functional.html#JUnit_Integration which allows you to specify a map  
> of properties that will be expanded with the ${<property-name>} 
> syntax which is almost like you described (you had the $ inside the  
> brackets).. We will in a future version extend the standard  
> testrunner to support specification of external properties as well,  
> hope this will do for now..
>
> regards,
>
> /Ole
> eviware.com
>
> Frank Cohen wrote:
>> Hi Ole and Niclas: Would you please give us your feedback on the  
>> ideas for integration between soapui and TestMaker that are below.  
>> Thanks. -Frank
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi William:
>>
>>> - About the graphics generated by TM. They will they be visible  
>>> when running using soapui? How can we present info?
>>>
>>> - How will TM5 bundle SOAPUI? What level of fusion do we want?
>>
>> Here is what I have in mind:
>>
>> A user wants to create a new test of a SOAP-based Web Service.
>>
>> 1) The user runs TestMaker 5.
>>
>> 2) From the new tool bar the user clicks New Scalability Test.
>>
>> 3) A dialog appears with buttons for: SOAP-based Web Service Test,  
>> Web Browser-based Test, Generic Scalability Test. The user clicks  
>> SOAP-based Web Service Test.
>>
>> 4) TestMaker opens a file selector and asks the user to enter the  
>> path to a new directory. The user enters ~/mytest
>>
>> 5) TestMaker creates a new TestScenario.xml file in ~/mytest with  
>> the name as the directory plus scalabilitytest. So the user finds  
>> ~/mytest/mytest_scalabilitytest.xml. TestMaker opens the test  
>> scenario in the Controller panel.
>>
>> 6) TestMaker launches soapui. (There may be a warning dialog here  
>> saying "Ready to run soapui, Yes,Cancel" as a convenience.)
>>
>> 7) soapui automatically creates a new soapui WSDL project (same as  
>> using the soapui File -> New WSDL Project command) named mytest,  
>> with mytest-soapui-project.xml stored in ~/mytest
>>
>> 8) soapui shows the mytest project in the left panel Projects tree.
>>
>> 9) The user right-clicks on the mytest project and chooses Add  
>> WSDL from URL. The user enters http://examples.pushtotest.com/axis/ 
>> services/MessageService?wsdl. The user chooses "yes" to the Create  
>> Default Requests For All Operations.
>>
>> 10) soapui shows the mytest -> MessageService -> echoElements ->  
>> Request 1 in the Projects panel. (Note: the user needs to expand  
>> the nodes in mytest to see this view.)
>>
>> 11) The user right-clicks on Request 1 and chooses Open Request  
>> Editor. soap displays the request in the right panel. The request  
>> looks like this:
>>
>> <soapenv:Envelope xmlns:soapenv="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/ 
>> envelope/" xmlns:mes="http://message.samples">
>>    <soapenv:Header/>
>>    <soapenv:Body>
>>       <mes:echoElements>?</mes:echoElements>
>>    </soapenv:Body>
>> </soapenv:Envelope>
>>
>> 12) The user replaces the ? in <mes:echoElements> with a test  
>> value of "my_test_string" so the request now looks like this:
>>
>> <soapenv:Envelope xmlns:soapenv="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/ 
>> envelope/" xmlns:mes="http://message.samples">
>>    <soapenv:Header/>
>>    <soapenv:Body>
>>       <mes:echoElements>my_test_string</mes:echoElements>
>>    </soapenv:Body>
>> </soapenv:Envelope>
>>
>> 13) The user may test this request by clicking the "Submit request  
>> to specified endpoint URL" icon in the upper left portion of the  
>> request panel.
>>
>> 14) The user right-clicks on the Request 1 in the Projects panel  
>> and chooses "Add to TestCase".
>>
>> 15) soapui asks for the name of a new test suite. The user enters  
>> myTestSuite. soapui then asks for the name of the new test case.  
>> The user enters myTestCase. The user then chooses the default  
>> values and clicks OK to the "Add Request to TestCase" dialog.
>>
>> 16) The user changes to TestMaker and clicks the 'edit' icon from  
>> the mytest TestScenario in the Controller window. The mytest file  
>> appears in the editor panel.
>>
>> 17) The user adds the following to the mytest scenario:
>>
>> <resources>
>>   <soapui path="~/mytest/mytest-soapui-project.xml">
>> </resources>
>>
>> <testusecase>
>>   <run name="mysoapuitest" testclass="myTestSuite"
>>       method="myTestCase" langtype="soapui"/>
>> </testusecase>
>>
>> 18) The user clicks the Run icon in the Controller panel.
>>
>> 19) TestMaker operates the mytest scenario as normal. It  
>> instantiates a thread and uses the soapui test runner to execute  
>> myTestCase in myTestSuite. The normal TestMaker parameters are  
>> available. For instance, the following:
>>
>> <testusecase>
>>   <crlevels>
>>     <crlevel value="10"/>
>>     <crlevel value="20"/>
>>   </crlevels>
>>   <run name="mysoapuitest" testclass="myTestSuite"
>>       method="myTestCase" langtype="soapui"/>
>> </testusecase>
>>
>> In the above example, TestMaker instantiates 10 threads and  
>> continuously operates the soapui test runner to run the  
>> MyTestSuite myTestCase for the duration of a test. It then ends  
>> the 10 threads, pauses, and then instantiates 20 threads and  
>> continuously operates the soapui test runner.
>>
>> And, our course, all the other benefits of TestMaker are  
>> available, including running the test on a distributed grid of  
>> TestMaker TestNodes, operating the MyTestSuite as a service  
>> monitor, charts of the results, resource monitoring as the test  
>> runs, etc.
>>
>> What I have not figured out is how the TestMaker Data Production  
>> Library will provide data to the myTestCase at run time. For  
>> instance, TestMaker users should be able to do:
>>
>> <testusecase>
>>   <run name="mysoapuitest" testclass="myTestSuite"
>>       method="myTestCase" langtype="soapui">
>>     <argument name="value1" value="my new test value"/>
>>   </run>
>> </testusecase>
>>
>> Perhaps we could modify soapui to have a variable insert mechanism  
>> in its test runner? For instance, in the above example the user  
>> opens Request 1 and changes the request to:
>>
>> <soapenv:Envelope xmlns:soapenv="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/ 
>> envelope/" xmlns:mes="http://message.samples">
>>    <soapenv:Header/>
>>    <soapenv:Body>
>>       <mes:echoElements>{$value1}</mes:echoElements>
>>    </soapenv:Body>
>> </soapenv:Envelope>
>>
>> and at runtime the soapui test runner replaces the {$value1} with:
>>
>> <soapenv:Envelope xmlns:soapenv="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/ 
>> envelope/" xmlns:mes="http://message.samples">
>>    <soapenv:Header/>
>>    <soapenv:Body>
>>       <mes:echoElements>my new test value</mes:echoElements>
>>    </soapenv:Body>
>> </soapenv:Envelope>
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> -Frank
>>
>>
>> On Mar 23, 2007, at 5:06 PM, William Martinez wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   --- A continuación el mensaje reenviado ---
>>>
>>> From: dev-owner at lists.pushtotest.com
>>> Date: March 23, 2007 1:31:18 PM PDT
>>> To: wmartinez at avantica.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Dev] soapui
>>>
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>>> From: "William Martinez" <wmartinez at avantica.net>
>>> Date: March 23, 2007 12:12:49 PM PDT
>>> To: TestMaker Developers List <dev at lists.pushtotest.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Dev] soapui
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Frank.
>>>
>>> Here are some questions from Luis:
>>>
>>> It sounds nice to merge soapui with testmaker.
>>>
>>> - About the graphics generated by TM. They will they be visible  
>>> when running using soapui? How can we present info?
>>>
>>> - How will TM5 bundle SOAPUI? What level of fusion do we want?
>>>
>>> William.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 08:42:15 -0700
>>>  Frank Cohen <fcohen at pushtotest.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi William: I spoke with Ole Matzura and Niclas Reimertz of the   
>>>> soapui project. They support bundling soapui with TestMaker 5.  
>>>> They  advised to use soapui 1.7. They told me there is a soapui  
>>>> test runner  in 1.7 that we should use to execute soapui tests.  
>>>> Provided that  there is nothing in their test runner that would  
>>>> keep us from running  in a multi-threaded TestNode environment,  
>>>> it seems better to use  their test runner than to transform  
>>>> their XML files when using soapui  tests in TestMaker. Please  
>>>> investigate their test runner to make sure  there that it is  
>>>> thread safe and will scale.
>>>> Other things we discussed:
>>>> - They are working on a commercial version of soapui that they  
>>>> will  announce next week. The commercial version is built on  
>>>> soapui 1.7 and  adds wizards to perform XPath and other  
>>>> functions. The commercial version comes with support services.  
>>>> soapui 1.7 will be LGPL and the  commercial version is a wrapper  
>>>> around the LGPL core soapui 1.7 jars.
>>>> - They distribute soapui documentation under a free license and  
>>>> we  may include it in the TestMaker distribution.
>>>> -Frank
>>>> -- 
>>>> Frank Cohen, PushToTest, http://www.PushToTest.com, phone 408  
>>>> 374 7426
>>>> TestMaker: The open-source SOA governance and test automation tool
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>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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>> Frank Cohen, PushToTest, http://www.PushToTest.com, phone 408 374  
>> 7426
>> TestMaker: The open-source SOA test automation tool
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>>
>> -- 
>> Frank Cohen, PushToTest, http://www.PushToTest.com, phone 408 374  
>> 7426
>> TestMaker: The open-source SOA governance and test automation tool
>>
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