[Dev] soapui remarks from Ole
Frank Cohen
fcohen at pushtotest.com
Sat Mar 24 21:11:46 PST 2007
> Response to email from soapui committers. -Frank
---
> sounds ok to me.. I'm sure this flow could be shortened in the
> future for a better user experience, but I suggest we start here
> and see "how it feels"..
That's where I am at. I'd like to see it, play with it, and then make
it easier.
> (for example the user could be prompted for the WSDL already in
> TestMaker and soapUI would automatically import it and generate a
> TestSuite with one TestCase containing a test request for each
> operation..)
Anything that reduces steps and is more automatic sounds good to me.
By the way, TestMaker does not store WSDL documents, it uses them.
Eventually TestMaker will be a repository with a database, policies,
and a registry of services. But that is past the TestMaker 5 project.
> Regarding variable insertion, this is already possible in soapUI
> (we call it "property expansion").
That's great.
> You will currently need to run the testcase as described in the
> second example at http://www.soapui.org/userguide/commandline/
> functional.html#JUnit_Integration which allows you to specify a map
> of properties that will be expanded with the ${<property-name>}
> syntax which is almost like you described (you had the $ inside the
> brackets)..
Actually that was my typo. I meant to follow the Ant style of
parameters: ${param_name}
> We will in a future version extend the standard testrunner to
> support specification of external properties as well, hope this
> will do for now..
Thanks. This helps much!
-Frank
>
> regards,
>
> /Ole
> eviware.com
>
> Frank Cohen wrote:
>> Hi Ole and Niclas: Would you please give us your feedback on the
>> ideas for integration between soapui and TestMaker that are below.
>> Thanks. -Frank
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi William:
>>
>>> - About the graphics generated by TM. They will they be visible
>>> when running using soapui? How can we present info?
>>>
>>> - How will TM5 bundle SOAPUI? What level of fusion do we want?
>>
>> Here is what I have in mind:
>>
>> A user wants to create a new test of a SOAP-based Web Service.
>>
>> 1) The user runs TestMaker 5.
>>
>> 2) From the new tool bar the user clicks New Scalability Test.
>>
>> 3) A dialog appears with buttons for: SOAP-based Web Service Test,
>> Web Browser-based Test, Generic Scalability Test. The user clicks
>> SOAP-based Web Service Test.
>>
>> 4) TestMaker opens a file selector and asks the user to enter the
>> path to a new directory. The user enters ~/mytest
>>
>> 5) TestMaker creates a new TestScenario.xml file in ~/mytest with
>> the name as the directory plus scalabilitytest. So the user finds
>> ~/mytest/mytest_scalabilitytest.xml. TestMaker opens the test
>> scenario in the Controller panel.
>>
>> 6) TestMaker launches soapui. (There may be a warning dialog here
>> saying "Ready to run soapui, Yes,Cancel" as a convenience.)
>>
>> 7) soapui automatically creates a new soapui WSDL project (same as
>> using the soapui File -> New WSDL Project command) named mytest,
>> with mytest-soapui-project.xml stored in ~/mytest
>>
>> 8) soapui shows the mytest project in the left panel Projects tree.
>>
>> 9) The user right-clicks on the mytest project and chooses Add
>> WSDL from URL. The user enters http://examples.pushtotest.com/axis/
>> services/MessageService?wsdl. The user chooses "yes" to the Create
>> Default Requests For All Operations.
>>
>> 10) soapui shows the mytest -> MessageService -> echoElements ->
>> Request 1 in the Projects panel. (Note: the user needs to expand
>> the nodes in mytest to see this view.)
>>
>> 11) The user right-clicks on Request 1 and chooses Open Request
>> Editor. soap displays the request in the right panel. The request
>> looks like this:
>>
>> <soapenv:Envelope xmlns:soapenv="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/
>> envelope/" xmlns:mes="http://message.samples">
>> <soapenv:Header/>
>> <soapenv:Body>
>> <mes:echoElements>?</mes:echoElements>
>> </soapenv:Body>
>> </soapenv:Envelope>
>>
>> 12) The user replaces the ? in <mes:echoElements> with a test
>> value of "my_test_string" so the request now looks like this:
>>
>> <soapenv:Envelope xmlns:soapenv="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/
>> envelope/" xmlns:mes="http://message.samples">
>> <soapenv:Header/>
>> <soapenv:Body>
>> <mes:echoElements>my_test_string</mes:echoElements>
>> </soapenv:Body>
>> </soapenv:Envelope>
>>
>> 13) The user may test this request by clicking the "Submit request
>> to specified endpoint URL" icon in the upper left portion of the
>> request panel.
>>
>> 14) The user right-clicks on the Request 1 in the Projects panel
>> and chooses "Add to TestCase".
>>
>> 15) soapui asks for the name of a new test suite. The user enters
>> myTestSuite. soapui then asks for the name of the new test case.
>> The user enters myTestCase. The user then chooses the default
>> values and clicks OK to the "Add Request to TestCase" dialog.
>>
>> 16) The user changes to TestMaker and clicks the 'edit' icon from
>> the mytest TestScenario in the Controller window. The mytest file
>> appears in the editor panel.
>>
>> 17) The user adds the following to the mytest scenario:
>>
>> <resources>
>> <soapui path="~/mytest/mytest-soapui-project.xml">
>> </resources>
>>
>> <testusecase>
>> <run name="mysoapuitest" testclass="myTestSuite"
>> method="myTestCase" langtype="soapui"/>
>> </testusecase>
>>
>> 18) The user clicks the Run icon in the Controller panel.
>>
>> 19) TestMaker operates the mytest scenario as normal. It
>> instantiates a thread and uses the soapui test runner to execute
>> myTestCase in myTestSuite. The normal TestMaker parameters are
>> available. For instance, the following:
>>
>> <testusecase>
>> <crlevels>
>> <crlevel value="10"/>
>> <crlevel value="20"/>
>> </crlevels>
>> <run name="mysoapuitest" testclass="myTestSuite"
>> method="myTestCase" langtype="soapui"/>
>> </testusecase>
>>
>> In the above example, TestMaker instantiates 10 threads and
>> continuously operates the soapui test runner to run the
>> MyTestSuite myTestCase for the duration of a test. It then ends
>> the 10 threads, pauses, and then instantiates 20 threads and
>> continuously operates the soapui test runner.
>>
>> And, our course, all the other benefits of TestMaker are
>> available, including running the test on a distributed grid of
>> TestMaker TestNodes, operating the MyTestSuite as a service
>> monitor, charts of the results, resource monitoring as the test
>> runs, etc.
>>
>> What I have not figured out is how the TestMaker Data Production
>> Library will provide data to the myTestCase at run time. For
>> instance, TestMaker users should be able to do:
>>
>> <testusecase>
>> <run name="mysoapuitest" testclass="myTestSuite"
>> method="myTestCase" langtype="soapui">
>> <argument name="value1" value="my new test value"/>
>> </run>
>> </testusecase>
>>
>> Perhaps we could modify soapui to have a variable insert mechanism
>> in its test runner? For instance, in the above example the user
>> opens Request 1 and changes the request to:
>>
>> <soapenv:Envelope xmlns:soapenv="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/
>> envelope/" xmlns:mes="http://message.samples">
>> <soapenv:Header/>
>> <soapenv:Body>
>> <mes:echoElements>{$value1}</mes:echoElements>
>> </soapenv:Body>
>> </soapenv:Envelope>
>>
>> and at runtime the soapui test runner replaces the {$value1} with:
>>
>> <soapenv:Envelope xmlns:soapenv="http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/
>> envelope/" xmlns:mes="http://message.samples">
>> <soapenv:Header/>
>> <soapenv:Body>
>> <mes:echoElements>my new test value</mes:echoElements>
>> </soapenv:Body>
>> </soapenv:Envelope>
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> -Frank
>>
>>
>> On Mar 23, 2007, at 5:06 PM, William Martinez wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- A continuación el mensaje reenviado ---
>>>
>>> From: dev-owner at lists.pushtotest.com
>>> Date: March 23, 2007 1:31:18 PM PDT
>>> To: wmartinez at avantica.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Dev] soapui
>>>
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>>> From: "William Martinez" <wmartinez at avantica.net>
>>> Date: March 23, 2007 12:12:49 PM PDT
>>> To: TestMaker Developers List <dev at lists.pushtotest.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Dev] soapui
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Frank.
>>>
>>> Here are some questions from Luis:
>>>
>>> It sounds nice to merge soapui with testmaker.
>>>
>>> - About the graphics generated by TM. They will they be visible
>>> when running using soapui? How can we present info?
>>>
>>> - How will TM5 bundle SOAPUI? What level of fusion do we want?
>>>
>>> William.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 08:42:15 -0700
>>> Frank Cohen <fcohen at pushtotest.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi William: I spoke with Ole Matzura and Niclas Reimertz of the
>>>> soapui project. They support bundling soapui with TestMaker 5.
>>>> They advised to use soapui 1.7. They told me there is a soapui
>>>> test runner in 1.7 that we should use to execute soapui tests.
>>>> Provided that there is nothing in their test runner that would
>>>> keep us from running in a multi-threaded TestNode environment,
>>>> it seems better to use their test runner than to transform
>>>> their XML files when using soapui tests in TestMaker. Please
>>>> investigate their test runner to make sure there that it is
>>>> thread safe and will scale.
>>>> Other things we discussed:
>>>> - They are working on a commercial version of soapui that they
>>>> will announce next week. The commercial version is built on
>>>> soapui 1.7 and adds wizards to perform XPath and other
>>>> functions. The commercial version comes with support services.
>>>> soapui 1.7 will be LGPL and the commercial version is a wrapper
>>>> around the LGPL core soapui 1.7 jars.
>>>> - They distribute soapui documentation under a free license and
>>>> we may include it in the TestMaker distribution.
>>>> -Frank
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>>>> Frank Cohen, PushToTest, http://www.PushToTest.com, phone 408
>>>> 374 7426
>>>> TestMaker: The open-source SOA governance and test automation tool
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