[ptt-users] TestMaker 5 completion specification

Wed Nov 29 08:03:53 PST 2006

That explains it. :-( Oh well. Thanks for finding this. I'll see what  
I can do when I write the TM 5 build scripts. Maybe I'll write my own  
zip handler. -Frank

On Nov 29, 2006, at 7:42 AM, Kyle Bell wrote:

> Frank,
>
> I found this tidbit from the ant user manual -> core tasks -> zip:
>
> Starting with Ant 1.5.2, <zip> can store Unix permissions inside the
> archive (see description of the filemode and dirmode attributes for
> <zipfileset>). Unfortunately there is no portable way to store these
> permissions. Ant uses the algorithm used by Info-Zip's  
> implementation of
> the zip and unzip commands - these are the default versions of zip and
> unzip for many Unix and Unix-like systems.
>
>
> Please note that the zip format allows multiple files of the same  
> fully-
> qualified name to exist within a single archive. This has been
> documented as causing various problems for unsuspecting users. If you
> wish to avoid this behavior you must set the duplicate attribute to a
> value other than its default, "add".
>
> This likely explains your issue.  The options available for the
> duplicate attribute are as follows:
>
> duplicate -> behavior when a duplicate file is found. Valid values are
> "add", "preserve", and "fail". The default value is "add".
>
> In your zip task you may try specifying "preserve" as the value rather
> than the default of "add" and see where that takes you...
>
> Hope this helps...
>
> -Kyle
>
>
>
> On Mon, 2006-11-27 at 10:52 -0800, Frank Cohen wrote:
>> Hi Kyle: Thanks for the feedback. See below. -Frank
>> On Nov 27, 2006, at 9:41 AM, Kyle Bell wrote:
>>
>>> Frank,
>>>
>>> Nice feature list.  I especially appreciate the first new feature  
>>> idea
>>> by Bongos Amigos.  I've not spent any time finding a good use for
>>> those
>>> generated XML files and this would make them immediately useful...
>>
>> Attached is an example TestScenario XML file. I'd love feedback on  
>> it.
>>
>>> Another enhancement or bug as it may be seen that I'd like to see
>>> addressed is the ability to kill a running TestCase from the  
>>> TestMaker
>>> IDE which is not being controlled by XSTest.  If a test case is
>>> running
>>> within the browser (perhaps it was written to run in an infinite  
>>> loop
>>> correctly or by accident), I've not found a way to kill this running
>>> process as the "stop the agent" button appears not to be effective.
>>
>> Interesting. When you click the stop button TestMaker kills the
>> thread running the script. That's not a very nice way to do it, but
>> it's something necessary. I suppose another way would be to have a
>> signal to the running test case to stop. I'll give this some thought.
>> Thanks for making me aware of the problem.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Also, could I get you to make a small change to your ANT script  
>>> which
>>> packages your distribution?  I had previously suggested (and you
>>> implemented) a change to make the permissions 755 on TestMaker.sh  
>>> when
>>> you perform your packaging.  Could I talk you into doing the same  
>>> with
>>> TestMaker.bat?  I also run TestMaker in some Windows systems and I
>>> find
>>> myself doing this within a cygwin environment as well.  Cygwin
>>> requires
>>> executable permissions on batch files for execution purposes and  
>>> this
>>> would prevent the step of changing permissions for other TestMaker
>>> users
>>> running in this environment.
>>
>> I'm ok with making that change.
>>
>> Maybe you can help me with a different problem. The way the build.xml
>> script is written now, the .sh files are correctly set with the 755
>> permissions, but the resulting Zip file has two copies of the .sh
>> files. It's totally weird to me to see WinZip on Windows ask if it
>> can overwrite the .sh files. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Since you included my suggestion for a SIP UAC/UAS I now wish I had
>>> edited it a little more closely...  :o)  I'm unsure how you plan to
>>> implement this feature in a single day (I rather thought there was
>>> more
>>> than a days work there) but kudos if you can accomplish it.  I'll be
>>> working this week on a piece of code to handle new connection  
>>> requests
>>> on a UAS.  If you are interested in the code once I get it polished,
>>> I'll happily hand it over.  I borrowed the design idea from Simon
>>> Foster's "Forwarding and Redirecting Network Ports" section 13.13
>>> of the
>>> "Python Cookbook", O'Reilly publishing.
>>
>> All the days are just estimates right now. I'm meeting with the
>> engineers this week to get their estimate. Please send me the code
>> you create. I'd love to see your approach.
>>
>>>
>>> In the future, you may also use your recorder on SIP messaging by
>>> redirecting your instant messenger to TestMaker as a proxy.  This
>>> kinda
>>> opens up a whole new realm of possibilities here as well...
>>
>> Totally agree with you on this. The proxy would easily extended to
>> record SIP sessions and create test cases.
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the terrific work, Frank.  If I come up with more
>>> commentary,
>>> I'll pass it along.
>>>
>>> -Kyle
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 2006-11-22 at 17:08 -0800, Frank Cohen wrote:
>>>> Work on TestMaker 5 continues. I wrote up a specification of the
>>>> remaining projects to complete. I expect PushToTest will fund the
>>>> development of the projects in this specification. I would love to
>>>> hear your feedback, suggestions, and prioritization.
>>>>
>>>> Download the TestMaker 5 completion specification document at:
>>>> http://downloads.pushtotest.com/tm5/TM5_Specification.pdf
>>>>
>>>> The document is 444K in Adobe Acrobat format. Please post your
>>>> feedback to this list.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> -Frank
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Frank Cohen, PushToTest, http://www.PushToTest.com, phone 408 374
>>>> 7426
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>>>> enabled
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>>>>
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